#501 – DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Agentic Engineering, Vibe Coding & Linux

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DHH is the creator of Ruby on Rails, Omarchy Linux, CTO of 37signals, and a racecar driver. Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: [https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep501-sc]( https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep501-sc">https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep501-sc See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc. **Transcript:** [https://lexfridman.com/dhh-2-transcript]( https://lexfridman.com/dhh-2-transcript">https://lexfridman.com/dhh-2-transcript **CONTACT LEX:** **Feedback** – give feedback to Lex: [https://lexfridman.com/survey]( https://lexfridman.com/survey">https://lexfridman.com/survey **AMA** – submit questions, videos or call-in: [https://lexfridman.com/ama]( https://lexfridman.com/ama">https://lexfridman.com/ama **Hiring** – join our team: [https://lexfridman.com/hiring]( https://lexfridman.com/hiring">https://lexfridman.com/hiring **Other** – other ways to get in touch: [https://lexfridman.com/contact]( https://lexfridman.com/contact">https://lexfridman.com/contact **EPISODE LINKS:** DHH’s X: [https://x.com/dhh]( https://x.com/dhh">https://x.com/dhh DHH’s Blog: [https://world.hey.com/dhh]( https://world.hey.com/dhh">https://world.hey.com/dhh Omarchy: [https://omarchy.org]( https://omarchy.org">https://omarchy.org Ruby on Rails: [https://rubyonrails.org]( https://rubyonrails.org">https://rubyonrails.org 37signals: [https://37signals.com]( https://37signals.com">https://37signals.com **SPONSORS:** To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts: **Wispr Flow:** AI-powered voice dictation app. Go to [https://wisprflow.ai/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/wispr\_flow-ep501-sc">https://wisprflow.ai/lex **Blitzy:** AI agent for large enterprise codebases. Go to [https://blitzy.com/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/blitzy-ep501-sc">https://blitzy.com/lex **NetSuite:** Business management software. Go to [http://netsuite.ai/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/netsuite-ep501-sc">http://netsuite.ai/lex **Shopify:** Sell stuff online. Go to [https://shopify.com/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/shopify-ep501-sc">https://shopify.com/lex **LMNT:** Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. Go to [https://drinkLMNT.com/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/lmnt-ep501-sc">https://drinkLMNT.com/lex **Plaud:** AI-powered note-taking devices and software. Go to [https://plaud.ai/lex]( https://lexfridman.com/s/plaud-ep501-sc">https://plaud.ai/lex **Higgsfield AI:** AI-based video generation, filmmaking, and creative studio. Go to [https://higgsfield.ai]( https://lexfridman.com/s/higgsfield-ep501-sc">https://higgsfield.ai **Perplexity:** AI-powered answer engine. Go to [https://perplexity.ai/]( https://lexfridman.com/s/perplexity-ep501-sc">https://perplexity.ai/ **OUTLINE:** (00:00) – Introduction (01:14) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections (08:56) – Programming with AI agents (24:14) – How software will change (33:30) – AI impact on open source (43:21) – Building Omarchy Linux distro (53:05) – Vibe coding vs agentic engineering (1:06:06) – The end of manual programming (1:16:24) – Advice for programmers (1:28:31) – Surviving Internet Hate (1:37:46) – Programming setup for AI Agents (1:50:11) – Obsessing about speed (2:13:06) – Voice prompting vs typing (2:27:05) – Best AI coding models (2:43:55) – Best AI coding harnesses (2:56:57) – AI video generation and filmmaking (3:16:28) – Fatherhood (3:44:35) – Linux will win the desktop (3:55:51) – PewDiePie (4:05:25) – Future of programming (4:28:18) – Politics and immigration (4:59:55) – Longevity, over-optimization, and fear of death (5:11:38) – Eternal recurrence and future of human civization