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Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's December 2025 interview with Michael P. Masters Clips used under fair use from JRE show #2428 Listen to our other shows: - Cecil - [Cognitive">https://www.dissonancepod.com/">Cognitive]( https://www.citationpod.com/">Citation]( https://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/skeptics-with-a-k">Skeptics]( https://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/the-skeptic-podcast">]( Outro Credit - Soulful Jam Tracks: [https://www.youtube.com/@soulfuljamtracks](https://www.youtube.com/@soulfuljamtracks )