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Michael Marshall and Cecil Cicirello break down Joe's November 2025 interview with Gavin de Becker. Main - [">https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/47/5/1199/492213/Retroviruses-as-Carcinogens-and-Pathogens">]( https://www.aidsmap.com/news/may-2007/newer-more-sensitive-hiv-antibody-tests-producing-false-positive-results-uninfected">]( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1876034123002836">]( https://web.archive.org/web/20100407225045/http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/HIVAIDS/Understanding/howHIVCausesAIDS/pages/hivcausesaids.aspx">]( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2v0nnriyk">Reviewing]( https://time.com/4705809/first-aids-drug-azt/">AIDS]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zidovudine#Side\_effects">Zidovudine]( https://www.aidstruth.org/science/NIAIDAZTandAIDS/">NIAID:]( https://glaad.org/fact-check-correcting-the-record-on-hiv-aids-misinformation-online/">]( https://www.cdc.gov/museum/online/story-of-cdc/aids/index.html#:\~:text=CDC%20Investigates,to%20screen%20the%20blood%20supply">]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable\_%3D\_Untransmittable">Undetectable]( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1949841/">HIV]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS\_denialism">HIV/AIDS]( https://academic.oup.com/mit-press-scholarship-online/book/33418/chapter-abstract/287512477">]( https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/06/22/no-azt-hasnt-caused-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths-fact-check/70321406007/">]( https://www.verywellhealth.com/why-do-gay-men-have-an-increased-risk-of-hiv-3132782">]( https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/09/hiv-infects-heterosexual-gay-bisexual-men-uk-testing-virus">]( https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/family-at-the-center-of-battle-over-hiv-positive-infant-speaks-out/">]( https://www.cdc.gov/surv-manual/php/table-of-contents/chapter-16-tetanus.html">]( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_polio">History]( https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/majority-mumps-cases-are-vaccinated-cdc-finds-rcna6482">]( https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/measles-is-making-a-comeback-can-we-stop-it-202503063091">]( https://www.dissonancepod.com/">Cognitive]( https://www.citationpod.com/">Citation]( https://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/skeptics-with-a-k">Skeptics]( https://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/podcasts/the-skeptic-podcast">]( Outro Credit - Soulful Jam Tracks: [https://www.youtube.com/@soulfuljamtracks](https://www.youtube.com/@soulfuljamtracks )