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Sometimes you want to come up with ideas without thinking too much. That's when you throw ideas at the wall to see if anything sticks. Learn how to use this expression with Feifei and Phil. As always, find a free transcript here: ✔️ [](https://www.bbc.co.uk/learningenglish/english/features/the-english-we-speak%5F2026/ep-260608) . For more great language tips and programmes visit bbclearningenglish.com We send a newsletter with our weekly highlights - subscribe here: ✔️ [](https://www.bbc.co.uk/learningenglish/newsletters)